05 Jan 2020 13:33:47
It seems the general consensus on here, that Jack Grealish should command a fee somewhere between 70 and 80 million.
Surely it would make perfect sense to sell and then invest that money into the services of Milot Rashica and Jarrod Bowen.
Putting sentiment aside here is what we need, and let's face it Jack will go at some point anyway.
Those two additions would offer Villa far more options going forward and make us a lot more potent as a strike force.
That would also ensure we do not infringe further the rules of FFP.
A decent striker to accompany those two, would In my view go somewhere near to preserving our premiership survival.


1.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 13:48:52
So you'd sell our best player by a country mile, one of the best players in the Premiership and buy two more players untested at this level?

I'll pass on that one Dave ;-)

We need to be adding players that will support Jack, not selling him in January! Also, he's worth 80M now, another season improving and developing at Villa (assuming we stay up) and that figure gets much bigger.


2.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 14:42:25
Yes I would, I am looking a bit further than the end of my nose mate. Jack is going to leave anyway, you sometimes have to give a bit of ground to go forward.
Norwich sold Maddison and got promoted.


3.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 16:03:26
If our intention is to stay in the league then selling our best player is probably the worst idea possible - Using the funds on more untested players is the second worst.

The fact that Jack will go eventually is redundant, while he is at our club we need to build a team around him - Add quality to the squad, not strip it of our best player.

Personally I think we will get another season out of Jack if we remain in the top flight.


4.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 16:56:48
I think if we stay up and build a team around Grealish, he’ll stay all his career, only teams that could turn his head are Real/ Barca

UTV.


5.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 17:29:41
I can't believe the thought of selling Jack came into any villa fans mind.


6.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 17:31:59
BK, by your own admission you agree Jack will go eventually, so you say build a team round him, counter productive if ever I heard it.
That`s like knocking down a house in the middle of a garden you have designed.
You say the players I have mentioned are untried in the prem, yet a team you suggested had Benrahma, Phillips and Bowen in it, again all untested.
Look at the facts mate, Barcelona, Liverpool, Milan, to name a few all improved after selling their best player according to their own supporters.
Another instance look at England, stuck with the same so called best midfield, Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes/ Beckham.
I am not trying to change anybodies mind here, it Speaks for itself in my opinion.


7.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 18:17:03
Tindy, Sorry for shattering your illusion of a Villa fan mate.
I want the best for my club, not for a player who will move on at some point.
I think that to enable us to go forward we will need to generate some money from somewhere, so we can invest without getting further in the mire than we already are.
whether you like it or not, that`s the way it is with our club.


8.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 18:22:34
Dave, Villa aren't Barcelona or Liverpool - They have a squad full of top quality players, Villa unfortunately do not. Bar one, Grealish!

I would love to see the likes of Bowen etc at Villa but not at the cost of Jack Grealish! I'm genuinely shocked that any Villa fan would suggest selling Grealish in January.

I agree with you, Grealish will inevitably move on to pastures new - I think both City and Liverpool will be interested in the next few seasons and for me those are the only teams in England that may be able to tempt him. In the meantime we need to build a team around him in order to progress if / when he leaves so we are replacing one player rather than an entire squad rebuild. AGAIN!


9.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 18:57:03
And neither is Grealish a Ronaldo or Messi, its relative mate, if you
don`t agree that is fine by me.
BK, You will get over the shock, I see it as it is mate.
Just a thought, have you ever considered that Jack stands out because he is playing with a load of idiots as some fans are saying?


10.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 19:42:37
Dave, if you can't see the Grealish is a top player I can't really help you. And that is playing with "a load of idiots"! Put him in the City team and he would stand out even more, he's quality.

Think we need to agree to disagree here, I don't think selling our best player is the best way to stay in the Premiership.


11.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 20:01:58
It would be stupid selling our best it would send out all the wrong signals, only if we get 70/ 100 mil in summer and only to a top 4 club aswell and plus if we stay in the division we can build and sign better players proven top class prem players.


12.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 20:10:11
Lets sell are best player who is playing class and by some donkeys who are not proven . Jack is villa threw and threw i grew up with him and his family . If villa stay up i'm sure he will stay as long as getting paid proper money. The prem isn't a top 4 nomore when your guaranteed a trophy so why leave to go these clubs . We sell jack and we sealing our own fate.


13.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 20:11:09
I am not looking for help BK, and at no time during this discussion have I said Grealish is not a top player, nor have I said he is playing with a bunch of idiots.
What I have said is that some fans are "saying they are idiots".


14.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 20:52:56
So Rashika and Bowen are donkeys are they Del.
I still think if we had Rashika and Bowen on the books instead of Jack we would be better off.
I know Jack is Villa through and through I keep getting told that, and growing up with him does not mean you are right does it.
To be honest I expected nothing else from you all, and I am cool with that.


15.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 21:10:59
Villa Dave jck would walk into any team, can't believe you think he's not a top player villa would be down without him but it's your opinion mate that's why this site is good different views world would be messed up if we all thought the same.


16.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 21:31:31
But Dave, can you at least appreciate where we are coming from? I think selling Jack would send a statement to the world that Villa are destined for the Championship - Bowen and Rashida would not join if Jack left - Add to that, how would our other assets feel? McGinn and Ming's would surely be out the door next meaning we would be facing yet another rebuild. I understand your point, I don't agree with it, but let's move on!

{Ed047's Note - Liverpool sold probably their then best player, Coutinho, for £140 million.

Bought Allison and VVD, hows that worked out? 🤷‍♂️


17.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 21:32:26
Again read my post properly 4eva, I have never said he is not a top player.
Read what you are answering 4eva, if you do that it stops you looking silly.


18.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 21:59:50
Thank you Ed, the voice of reason.
A great example of my point in question.

{Ed047's Note - obviously you need to make sure you get the right two replacements Dave.


19.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 21:52:56
Dave your comments are often the voice of reason, however where Jack is concerned you seem to me blinkered in terms of the practicalities of selling him. Give Deano Jacks money for the good of Aston Villa?, look what happened with the last £120 million plus we spent. So we lose the talent that is helping us hang on by our finger nails in terms of premier survival, how on earth can that help. Even with Jack there is a good chance we will go down and yes he will eventually leave us. Our best chance of survival is to hold on to him.

I can't think of any two player combination that would come to a team that could well be relegated, that we can get with jack's money. So how would that improve our chances. So can we get players that are going to get anywhere near Jack's overall contribution to our staying in the prem, I don't think so. Dave I think your are in the minority with your views here.


20.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 22:19:53
Yeah for sure, that is up to the powers that be, but at least you can see the point I am trying to make Ed.
Liverpool also did it when selling Owen, in came Xabi Alonso, Luis Garcia and Djibril Cissé.
It is the bigger picture that I am looking at, in hope it has to be said.

{Ed047's Note - with the likelihood that he’s going to leave it’s the sensible thing to do Dave.

It doesn’t always mean the club goes backwards.


21.) 05 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 22:46:28
Thanks Scotty mate, I understand your point as far as Jack is concerned, and I hope I am certainly not blinkered.
Players are not going to avoid Villa just because Jack is is not there Scotty.
My idea of replacements would be Mitrovic, Bowen, Rashica, Santamaria, Benrahma, there are others but any three of these I think would be good for us.
I have no doubt after the dust had settled our return from these players efforts would pacify the doubters.

I can see I am in the minority yes and I do understand, but I feel very strongly about it. My club comes first not any player.
Its just my opinion mate.


22.) 06 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 23:07:04
Dave it's not about players avoiding villa because of Jack, it's about players avoiding us because of our precarious position.


23.) 06 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 23:28:37
We all feel strongly about villa but to sell our prize asset would be ludicrous, we want to keep and build the team around him, with class players, not the crap he's playing with now, we need quicker thinking. Players who are on jcks waves lengths.


24.) 06 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 22:43:21
Ed 047 how on earth can anyone sensibly compare villa with Liverpool and attracting players of the same quality as jack.

{Ed047's Note - I’m comparing the situation rather than the clubs Scot. If as is highly likely, Grealish leaves, you have to get max money, use it wisely and then and my point, whose to say you can’t be a better team.

I’m not for a minute suggesting it going to turn you into a Champions League and Premier league winning giant mate.


25.) 06 Jan 2020
05 Jan 2020 22:49:38
Thank you Ed.


26.) 07 Jan 2020
06 Jan 2020 23:58:48
Sorry but no way I’d sell jack in January!