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03 Oct 2015 18:19:09
Professional people on THOUSANDS per week don't know whether they are allowed to shoot? This is laughable. The team should be able to organise and play matches WITHOUT A MANAGER?

Total agreement that this is far from satisfactory and I also admit that I have serious doubts about Sherwood, (a few half decent potential signings aside and a few games last season he has been unsuccessful in everything else) but at the same time. I am pretty fed up of millionaires strolling about and doing nothing and then its all the managers fault.

Players never seem to take ANY responsibility for anything. Even when they're naughty off the pitch they are protected as much as possible. Why did Sherwood pinpoint Grealish to change his off the field antics yet not raise anything about Gabby?

I honestly believe that if the rules changed and clubs started to sack players for poor performances in the same way they do managers the whole game would dramatically change for the better.

Some of TS decisions and substitutions have certainly been questionable and he definitely should carry a portion of the blame, but by no means all of it. Randy Lerner is one of the biggest culprits but there are MANY. He's spent some of his inheritance sure and i have given him credit for this in the past, but his reluctance to be involved day to day and his "shyness" to answer any questions posed by the pathetic media or the loyal supports is a shameful reminder of exactly how much he cares. But there are others.

I blame GABBY just as much as I blame any of the previous managers. One of the top earners and supposed Villa fan yet struggles to score 5 goals a season for the club he loves so much? Same as I place blame on the heads of the coaching and medical staff that have been there for sometime (Cowans in particular) how many long term injuries have we had over the last 10 years, how many have occurred in training and then how many have been delayed and delayed in their returns, the numbers are staggering.

If you look at anyone that has got a connection to the club (past player or so-called supporter) that has a job within the club and how they can bare to watch what is happening, but the truth is they're getting paid a fortune to be part of it. And anyone who does say anything, or points out any of the obvious flaws is booted out, from disgruntled fans with signs and banners, to coaches, two assistants, Ian Taylor anyone who got in the way.

I feel like I could go on and on, ripping this club I have devoted over 25 years of my life to, to shreds but for what gain? The only person suffering is me, my kids and the rest of the supporters.

Is Randy Lerner suffering? Is Prince William?, David Cameron? Gabby Agbonlahor? Tom Hanks? Tim Sherwood? I don't think so.

The biggest and saddest reality of all is that Us MUGS are PAYING A FORTUNE in hard earned cash, emotion and misfortune to be part of this!

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03 Oct 2015 19:27:51
Wow. Impassioned Post and unsurprising given the circumstances. I cannot disagree with the sentiment, but I have to ask, what is so different this season compared to those recently gone by that has inspired such passion amongst the Villa faithful? Perhaps the unprecedented signing of 11 new players with, at least, the promise of better things? My interest in the club is different. My Avatar on this site is my great-uncle who was Villa Vice Chairman from 1900-1910 when he inconsiderately died about 100 years too early to hand over the reins to me and hence secure a great future for the club  For me, if we ended up in the Conference, I would still be a Villa fan because it’s not about the success of the club compared to others (BCFC aside obviously) it’s about loving the club, it’s history, and everything it stands for. It’s not even about geography – many on this site are either ex-pat Villains in some way or another, or are too far away to make the expensive trip regularly. I’m from south of the City Centre so, by nature, would be supporting … oh no, it’s not even worth considering. No-one here would consider switching allegiances to any other club. We know some parents of new-borns sometimes take time out from regular attendance on The Holt every other Saturday to attend to newly-prioritized child-minding duties, but even that never lasts longer than a few weeks .
My point is that, whist many of us have been supporting the club for over 55 years (OK, maybe just me then), apart from a couple of ‘glory days’ in the early 80’s, it’s never been easy. Before the 1st Division title and European Cup, we’d been dining-out on the historic FA Cup victories for years. Maybe none of us will ever die happy as Villa supporters – it’s just a big part of our seasonal Saturdays and cup matches – hopefully we’ll all die a lot happier from other victories in our lives – God knows we deserve it.

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03 Oct 2015 20:12:31
Thanks for your interesting reply, and I must say I do agree with your points about it never really being that great or easy but yet here we all are none the less and still 10 years down the line many of us will still be here begging for success.

All my family are originally from down south, in fact I was actually born in Hove but we moved up to Redditch when I was still only a few weeks old, so i'm actually alone in supporting Villa (except for my mrs and my kids) all my other family support Brighton.

To answer your question directly as best I can, I think you're right in this season starting with some new found 'optimism' which has only lasted about 3 games into the season and is pretty much already dead.
I think there are a number of reasons for this.
Staying up last season is a big factor.
Sherwood being the manager and not Lambert is another big one for a lot of fans.
The entire squad overhaul from getting rid of some of the deadwood to bringing in some highly rated young overseas talent.
I think also the takeover rumours and possible sale played a factor in many supporters having some more 'belief' this season and now feeling even further let down because of it.
I think a lot of people genuinely believed that the funds being allocated to sign the players were coming from some unknown source who was about to takeover the club and save us all. and when that fire eventually got stamped out, the belief did not die but instead just changed to a more "Randy is investing, he must give a toss again" attitude which didn't last all that long either.

The truth is our net spend was pretty pathetic in comparison to the teams in the league especially those we would consider our main threats. And where as I do agree that money doesn't buy everything and you cannot simply go and and buy success that easily even Chelsea and Man City have found it difficult with all their wealth to be consistent. We certainly could have done better in this summers window. A proven striker was a must, no disrespect meant to Rudy Gestede but he's not Benteke and we only just about survived twice with him.

I think a lot of supporters including myself are just sick of being hood-winked, those of us who are realistic know Villa are far from being a top 6 side at the moment and that the table the last few years does not lie. We just want to be competitive, have a few cup runs where we don't embarrass ourselves against lower opposition, or in the final! We don't expect to be the best and spend the most, but we expect to compete, and the last few season we haven't done that, it would be a compliment to say we have even stood still.
It isn't just out league position which has taken a hit since MON left, it's the clubs reputation, the clubs respect and most importantly the fans hearts and wallets.

I want to be able to take my kids to the Villa again with a real desire to be there, to enjoy it win, lose or draw. Rather than it feeling like a chore as it has become, something I now rarely look forward to. The life and soul has been sucked out of the club and the supporters along with it.
Nobody expects miracles, nobody expects trophies every season there are a lot of good honest supporters who only want the best for a club that has done nothing but take since MON left.

I think all we really ask is at least start meeting halfway.

Sorry for essay. There's no way I could've written this with a pen. Lol

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04 Oct 2015 10:45:24
Im just waiting for more excuses. going to be interesting to what people can come up this time.

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04 Oct 2015 13:23:32
"I think all we really ask is at least start meeting halfway."

Well said fplmorg. I think every villa fan on here would be more than happy to have a few seasons of not looking over our shoulder. Wouldn't it be nice to be safe with 5 or more games left in the season and not be having to worry about other results going our way? While I agree that the players owners and board must shoulder some of the blame for our poor start and previous poor seasons I fear that Tim is the main (well most easily remedied in the short term) problem right now. His tactical naivety has cost us too many points this season already (I was hoping that RW appointment might have helped in this regard but alas it seems not) and his subsequent comments have more than an air of Lambert to them. Young team, great effort, etc after the investment over the summer I can't help but feel that a proven manager would have villa moving upwards with the squad that is currently available at the club. Love him or loathe him big Sam has proven himself to get results and I would welcome his managerial knowledge to the club. Or maybe Ray could give his old mate Carlo a call?
Anyway whatever happens to our beloved club I will still wear my claret and blue proudly whatever division we are playing in.

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04 Oct 2015 13:45:15
I am now with only 8 games in desperately worried,think we all had some better expectations with some signings,TS interviews etc etc,well it's not happening at all,seems game after game TS has no idea best starting 11 changes after changes and some very questionable subs,I thought personally that game against Stoke was a must win game even this early (yes) I believe it was to stop the rot. I'm mean ayew best 45 2nd half against that little club near us lol,Liverpool dropped,uhhh,Well I'm in disbelief not much more to say TBH it's just all depressing

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05 Oct 2015 00:27:48
Let's get some info then Everybody. How many more games has TS got before Villa does something about it. Next. the longer we wait less calibar of a manger will be available,ie. Sunderland,Newcastle. (once McLaren goes enevitable). Would get the better quality manager before us. No way would we be linked with the type of manager that the liverpools,Chelsea's if Jose gets sacked,maybe,maybe not?. SO like the above post about Big Sam. why not.steady ship,proven manager,perm exp,my major worry is with all the interviews TS has done,his body language game day,and after he looks like his heart has gone,maybe just my opinion but that's what banter/rumour site is here for,to top it off TS looks to me like he has aged 10yrs in last few weeks and his energy has disappeared. I'm not one to be irrational but S*** needs sorting the soon,what do you guys think ?

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06 Oct 2015 10:24:27
ancelotti or deboar are available at the moment?

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06 Oct 2015 17:54:08
I'd take either of them in a heartbeat, but how realistic is it that either of them would come? Not likely.
The reality is we are a club with a good past history and a piss poor recent one with has effected our stature within the game, were essentially already in a relegation dogfight and its only just October, we have a clueless unambitious owner who has both failed to find us a new owner/chairman or show an interest and change the direction of the club.
We've had almost an entire squad overhaul, and yet have no proven premier league goalscorer in the team. With a probable tiny budget and low wages available in January, it makes you wonder.

Who can we seriously get in? I don't want Big Sam, Redknapp, Bruce or any of the other usual shower of shite that get linked with every job going. I'd rather give K Mac another shot than any of them. I wouldn't mind Moyes but can't see him leaving sunny Spain for Birmingham any time soon. Any appointment HAS to be the right one, or don't bother making one at all. The club need to make their ambitions clear before they can think of looking for a new manager cause' if just about stopping up is on the agenda for the next few years then we may as well have just kept Mcleish

What exactly are we going to offer the prospective manager?
Cheeky 1mil bonus to keep us up? and then back to the same old this time next year round?
We deserve better than that.
We're supposed to be Aston Villa for **** sake.

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01 Oct 2015 19:04:35
Gianluigi Buffon has talked up the possibility of making a transfer to the Premier League before he calls time on his illustrious career.

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02 Oct 2015 11:52:59
i like your way of thinking hahaha wishing thinking as it maybe, god knows why you got an unbelievable for a hopeful comment

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27 Sep 2015 12:27:31
Sherwood is apparently looking to sell Guzan and replace him with FSV Mainz 05 goalkeeper Loris Karius, according to a media website.

I think that he looks like a really decent keeper and better than Guzan.
And from what I've seen, he has made many important saves last season.

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29 Sep 2015 15:56:39
We do need a world class keeper

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01 Oct 2015 22:23:25
And a manager.
Lerner will not sack him as that would be another failure on his part to bring in a real manager.
Sherwoods reputation was with players superior at Spurs in every way to those he inherited and bought.
We cannot afford to wait and see, it may well be too late already.
Through poor club management and total lack of ambition right at the top we have slipped so far backward that it will take years to change.
Investment on a massive scale is required.
We have a great stadium, great supporters, some useful players but poor senior people.
The way forward is going to be very trying for all of us!!!

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02 Oct 2015 18:42:30
Trying but I keep hope with tim, okere and gardner still to come back, traore has been injured, veretout has not played much.

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25 Sep 2015 21:25:42
I wrote a similar post a few weeks ago showing my disgust at some Villa "fans" and their expectations and demands.
It is so refreshing to read posts from some sensible, realistic, football supporters.
I my heart Aston Villa is the greatest team in the world and has been and will be the team for me - but- I know where we are in the pecking order of premier league football teams. I believe that by the end of this season we will be an ok mid table team that will only get better.
However, some fans believe we have a God given right to win 30 games a season by just turning up because we're Aston villa, and if that's not happening then sack everyone and moan and moan and moan.

Let's just put something into perspective. We are in the TOP flight of the BEST league in the world. We have just bought some real quality youngsters that given time will flourish and in my opinion will then have one of the best young managers around. One that when other teams come knocking for him the"moaners" who want his head now will be calling him a judas because he goest a club where fans want him and appreciate him.

I've not known fans like it. We have the biggest team in the midlands and we will have the best team too. But do we have the greatest fans in the Midlands anymore. We boo our players at 0-0 but small Heath cheer and applaud their team off after they lose. The baggies sing and show real passion and togetherness. Even Walsall fans, all 3500 of them sing their hearts out for their team. Yet us Villa fans can't sing for 90 mins without moaning, without throwing their toys out because it's not 1981/82 anymore. Some villa fans need to get their heads from up their backsides or just stay at home.

We win together and we lose together. It's called loyalty, and we moan about Delph because there's no loyalty yet boo our own players?? How does that work? Look at rangers fans, started again in the lowest level of football but all come back up together.

I love my club, win, lose or draw and when I'm at villa park and I sing villa till I die it's because I mean it.

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26 Sep 2015 08:46:16
Here here

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26 Sep 2015 11:32:31
I'm with you comrade
Generally speaking, I have no issue with people whingeing on here (I've done enough of it myself)
That said, we seem to have turned it into a sport of it's own
However, booing at half-time, whatever the state of the game, is just poor
If this goes on we'll have to start calling ourselves customers rather than fans
We are slowing becoming Man U fans/customers without the trophies (Newcastle fans in other words)

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26 Sep 2015 11:48:23
Mike, I confess I booed at Half time and having read your message confess to feeling regret, however the tactics and skill showed in the first 45 were very poor, TS said it was planned but I think even he was shocked at the performance.
The professionals get paid so much these days, us low earners have no other way to show frustrations and disappointment. If we vote with our feet we miss out on the game and team we love.
Out of interest I have held a season ticket for 30 years and travel 50 miles to home games alone, does that give me a right to show my frustration? I think so but You have got me thinking so good on you mate!

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26 Sep 2015 12:58:40
Excellent posts from the hearts of you guys,nature of game these days puts mega amount of pressures on managers,players,board due to cost of going to see the beloved villa,we also have to understand not everybody will be happy even if results were different,let's see this correctly dominated Sunderland easily should of won but unlucky -2 points,crystal palace rash errors by Guzan,Amavi -2 points,absolutely imploded at Leicester -3 points so my calculations we would be on 11points flying high. This team needs time RB is major problem and keeper plus we have missed gueye big time last 2/3 games,second half against that team tue in cup was was exciting to see grealish,ayew especially ayew best 45 mins since joined and a glimmer of the player we hoped,I still think TS is struggling knowing best 11 so many players in/out in/out TS has also made so mistakes but come on he's young still got a lot to learn TBH. I got a feeling of 3 points today at Anfield UTV

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26 Sep 2015 13:15:51
Sorry everyone the -2 points at palace was wrong we was on course for a hard earned draw so threw away 3 points my bad lol :)

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26 Sep 2015 14:27:26
i admit i'm not happy with the way its looking and i said i think the fact not including league we won one game in 10 i think it is was starting to look bad on sherwood and if we had lost the derby i think it would have looked even worse,

quite a lot the games its not just the losing that been the problem its been the all round play has been shocking at times too.

but one thing i will never agree with is booing your team off at half time, as you say how the hell is that going to help the team in the slightest? if anything that might make it worse

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23 Sep 2015 17:54:03
im not slagging the lads off or going to start a debate cause we won and that's the main point but the two negatives i guess you can see from last night is 1, from 17 shots we only hit the target 3 times and 2, didn't like the way we played (broken record time) till gabby came off then WOW we was a complete diffenrt team for me

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22 Sep 2015 23:02:52
Come on you Villa, happy with 1 but should have been more. TS, I can't understand that first half at all, Clarke was a fish out of water, & I don't know if Lescott was injured, but he was rubbish .What a differance second half, Jack & Ayew where a different class.

What a change in Ruddy when he scored, he suddenly started winning the ball holding it up & looking like the player we bought. Amavi proved that if you put the right balls in Ruddy will score. Clarke was much better at CH, in the second half. TS have a good think before Sat.

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22 Sep 2015 21:47:39
Well played Jordan Ayew. You were my man of the match ! The city is ours !

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22 Sep 2015 22:23:01
Ayew played well but Grealish was the star

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23 Sep 2015 09:07:30
Its no coincidence we looked better when gabby went off.

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23 Sep 2015 20:14:30
Ayew played well but no way was anyone better than Grealish
A joy to watch

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22 Sep 2015 01:16:00
I agree villa finally someone that speaks sence we are clueless under sherwood we should of got big sam or redknapp in bfore ts in the first place mate well said villa mick

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22 Sep 2015 14:07:12
redknapp no. big sam might have been a good call.

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22 Sep 2015 15:02:11
What are you guys on about, Sherwood is our manager nobody else, you are nothing more than a couple of doom and gloom merchants, think back to the seasons start I bet you were both wetting yourselves with excitement, 6 games in and listen to it. “Wake up”
People are getting worse on here, Believe me I have seen some very poor teams assembled here at Villa park, I first set foot on the holte end in 1956 and I have always been proud to be a Villa Fan.
The Manager and club are trying to improve what was a total shambles on and off the pitch, it will not happen because you guys are throwing your toys out of the pram will it.

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22 Sep 2015 17:42:24
Mate we can have our opinions that's wot this site is at the end of the day iam not doom merchant i just don't like sherwood he's useless ask all spurs fans not one will have a good word to say bout him i fear for him tonight villa could win ten in a row an i wouldn't b happy with him not like there's any chance of that anyway mate

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22 Sep 2015 18:17:46
Yes we can have our opinions that’s why I am giving you my opinion about your opinion, if you get my drift.
And why should I ask Spuds fans about Sherwood, its Villa fans I am interested in.

I don’t give a rats behind about what spuds fans think.
You have obviously got a dislike for Sherwood then by the sound of things, if Villa won the next 10 games as you put it I would seriously reconsider my sexuality, Timmy would become very attractive to me.

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22 Sep 2015 22:12:55
Villa dave 9 to go

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22 Sep 2015 22:24:03
JB I am already puckering up mate

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24 Sep 2015 18:04:04
Ive spoken to quite a few spurs fans. most of them speak very highly of T.S.

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21 Sep 2015 16:54:43
I haven't been over to villa park for a while now, with the cost of it is massive flights hotel a day of work been from Ireland so I decided go this weekend I taught we would have been up for the game but no not 1 good rattle of a tackle to let the baggies now there in a derby
We never looked like scoring we all knew we needed a proven striker I just feel we have wasted money elsewhere our team seltion is all wrong grealish and Gill are to alike Westwood is average at best which leaves us extremely weak in midfield i'd love to see kozak with sinclare playing off him,
The weekend has cost me around €1000 to go and watch the crap I still think we are no better than what we were last season in fact we had more points on the board after the same amount of games I just can't see who we would beat and with Liverpool next weekend we will be in the bottom 3
With 50 million spent 6-7 games 4 points on the board it's no where near good enough why was he holding out for the donkey from spuds goals win games and we don't have them in our locker we should after spending that amount it's going to be a big week for timmy
I would love big Sam or rednapp

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21 Sep 2015 18:16:46
Hi Mick, I feel for you mate, 1000 Euro`s is a lot of cash.
I agree with a lot of what you are saying but I must hold faith, I get the feeling that for whatever reason certain players are going to be selected no matter what, and that is a big concern to me.
Westwood should not be in the side let alone the same side as Sanches, Gabby should be rested completely end of, Richards is not a centre back and should be switched to RB with a recall for clarke.
Agree about Kozack and Sinclair up front, got to give them a chance.
I could go on but as I say I am going to hold faith until Christmas, give Tim and his ideas a chance, time will tell.
I must add this though, If I was manager of Villa No way on this earth would we have lost at Leicester last week from a two goal lead, there were some bad substitutions at the wrong times made that day, very bad decisions.

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21 Sep 2015 19:20:24
Hi both,

I too agree with much of what you have said.
Gabby is spent, Westwood always struggles in a midfield 2, and substitutions have been abject in last 2 games.
Where is Kozak. 4 goals in 5 pre-season friendlies, the guy works his socks off, can hold the ball up and puts defenders under pressure, Oh! and he is also a proven international centre forward.

I have also been looking at headline quotes from 12 months ago.
'I'm the right man for the job', 'I'll get it right', 'We're working hard to turn it around', 'I'm not going to buckle under the pressure!' Seems sop strange that I seem to be seeing the same headlines now!!!
Wiso 111

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20 Sep 2015 16:22:46
Guzan (reluctantly)
Micah lescott clark
Sinclair Amavi
Traore Ayew

How would you all feel bout a change of system tuesday night? Just been looking at our squad an came up with this side couldn't decide who to give the nod up front.

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20 Sep 2015 18:10:04
are you basically saying you want sinclair RB???

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20 Sep 2015 19:30:03
Right wing back
Gueye has energy to hold an cover both wing backs bombing on
Think it could work
The modern wingback has to offer as much going forward as he does defensively

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19 Sep 2015 20:18:20
I keep reading that we are in transition, this is a new team and we should be patient because it will take time for this team to gel. 8 players who started against Leicester and 8 players who started today were signed by Lambert, how many years do people think it will take before this team does eventually gel ?

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20 Sep 2015 07:38:35
Never under Sherwood.
Over rated and totally naive. He stated that these were his players and we should judge him on the results. Well the jury may be out but the evidence is there for all to see.

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20 Sep 2015 12:52:21
sorry to be that guy but 8 players signed by lambert?? can you name the 8 cause struggling to get past 5

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19 Sep 2015 19:29:40
Lost it in midfield again, needed Veretout in from the start .No good having all that pace up front, if your midfield are struggling to win the ball .Once again we where over run, Veretout could have been in there to help win it & then use it, his last team he scored or supplied 46% of their goals .this is another reason our defence looks so bad, nothing in midfield to protect them .It proved once again today that we desperately need a RB, Hutton is a trier but need better than that .

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19 Sep 2015 20:35:16
been saying about hutton for last season or so. yes he kicked off last year great but from then he didn't really pick up. bacuna has been average but its clear that RB slot needs sorting,

i keep saying it but sanchez and westwood are not helping in that midfield, too many times since start last season they will have a good game then 3 bad games, we need consistency.

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19 Sep 2015 20:54:14
Veretout is not the player we need, its one of our own Gary Gardner. Westwood should not be in this team hope TS gets this right

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20 Sep 2015 10:35:00
Westwood is decent rarely gives ball away I'd like to see westwood gueye holding wit traore Sinclair out wide grealish floating round behind gestede. I'd like amavi an ilori at full back wit Micah an okore centre halves
New keeper in jan

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20 Sep 2015 13:15:54
Westwood can't head ,cant tackle and every pass forward gives away and he can't take a free kick, square and back pass he's ok . Gestede not good enough

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15 Sep 2015 10:25:15
Seeing reports we may go in for el mohammady from hull. Bag of cabbage if you ask me, don't want him, don't need him and could spend the supposed 5mil on a much better player!

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15 Sep 2015 19:16:14
Defo a better right wing back than bacuna

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18 Sep 2015 13:19:53
is he a right back?? thought jhe was a right winger

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19 Sep 2015 19:03:59
Plays in a wide right 5 man mid for hull back 3 behind so I guess he a wing back

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13 Sep 2015 10:29:46
Adebayor to villa was always going to happen but he just wanted spurs to pay up he's contract now tim sherwood will get he's man free a charge! UTV

{Ed002's Note - Not now, perhaps in January.}

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13 Sep 2015 11:09:18
even signing on a free we still have the problem he's going to want 100k

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13 Sep 2015 11:11:52
He has now been released, so could join. However, would we be able to register him before jan ? Do we actually want him ?

{Ed002's Note - I have already answered this, but just to be clear, whilst he could train with the club he cannot join or be registered or play for the club until the transfer window opens in January.}

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15 Sep 2015 19:47:57
Signing on a free would mean we've saved on a transfer fee and then could afford to pay high wages do the maths

{Ed001's Note - and what about the millions that would be needed for a signing fee?}

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02 Sep 2015 07:50:25
Rumour has it we may still be after Berbatov if personal terms can be agreed. Free agent so can happen after transfer window closed

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02 Sep 2015 12:09:25
Good to see another Bedford Villain on the board.
Berbatov has signed a 1 year contract at Greek side PAOK.

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02 Sep 2015 21:44:47
So God told Adebayour not to sign for us and Berbatov was told by his bank manager not to sign. Time for Kozak to show what he can do

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03 Sep 2015 07:09:58
He has signed for a Greek team so a no go now. We go forward with what we have till Jan at least.

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