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07 Jul 2020 16:05:27
Here my 2pence worth on the debate of if we deserve to go down or not, my opinion is yes we do a couple of reasons
1 Our whole game is based on Jack since football has come back he dosent seem to be at it all, he loses the ball and puts his hands his hips (anyone see the spurs game last night what happened with son and the keeper because son didn't track back) there Not fighting for there life's
2 Jack knows he has a move regardless what happens to us so is giving 100% ( I don't think so not half the player he was at the beginning of the season
3 we are relying on Davis now to get us goals to keep up this is somebody who is still learning his trade and never scored a prem goal we didn't we didn't we buy a proven striker in January or even a loan
4 since the lockdown 1 player is giving every thing for the cause luiz covering the ground and putting in a shift for the full 90 mins
5 our recruitment in the summer was shocking we baught 3 centre halfs when it should of been Cahill and mings we should have prompted 1 of our youth's
6 our wingers are like headless chickens el Ghazi hardly put fear into the championship defender's last season jota I'd is pinching himself I'd say he can't believe he can call himself a prem player
Go down rebuild it may take a season or 2 to get a hungry squad that wants to put in the hard yards just like Sheffield
Don't get me wrong here I want us to stay up but does this squad deserve to, no not for me
We needed to buy Cahill, Ings, benrahma, lolly, and 2 good wing backs
My last opinion on the game on Sunday I don't think we played that well because do you really think Liverpool were 100% at it, no hope there minds are already on the beach they boys there Sandles on already, we huffed and puffed like we have done all season all bar 1 game against city in the final if they played the 5 games with that attitude we might have a chance.
1.) 07 Jul 2020 17:21:46
I think you make some very good points IrishV, well done.
We have missed you mate, hope you are well.
2.) 07 Jul 2020 22:01:37
Thanks Dave, been reading here with interest, regards Deano getting the sack or not, some make very good points others are just here for the pics take and write something just for the sake of it,
My opinion is yes he stay next season if we go down let HIM bring the players he wants there will be a rebuild but isiant this What we do as a club getting wrong and start again, As a club aston villa has let the fans down go back 10-15 years ago you would look at fixture list to see when we played United Liverpool arsenal they were the teams that we struggled to beat not Burnley Norwich and the likes, We here so many of the big boys inside villa park talk about us been a big club the facts are we NOT anymore, big clubs stay at top United Liverpool Barcelona Madrid they might have a blip for a season or 2 but they climb back up, We are living of history the past we have done nothing or won nothing 25 yrs plus
Unless we stabilise as a club well then for me are going to be a yo yo club that's why smith needs to kept let him build something
O NEILL tried to build something Randy sold him out we were exciting to watch and just missed out on champions league maybe that could have been our turning point
Sherwood was another manager I like and did a good job with the players he had if smith gets the sack I'd like him to come in, because he will give our younger lads a go
Look at United how many youth players are in there squad this is a club that can go out and buy whoever they want Chelsea the same, is our youth set up that bad that we don't have a winger better than the 2 that start week in out, do we not have a young Hungary midfielder that will give more than drinkwater and lansbury why did we realise so many young players lately if they weren't going to make it why wasn't this spotted before now, as a club it's like we will try this and if it work if not sure will come up with something else.
3.) 08 Jul 2020 14:16:39
Very true IV, over the last few weeks we have pretty much touched on everything you have said, and I totally agree, we are a shambles again.
I would have to disagree on Sherwood being manager again, not enough experience for me, and his record is not good enough if we are to progress at all.
17 Jun 2020 11:44:33
Curtin is going to drop soon on this mini league of survival for us, for Mcginn has to start he brings our midfield from 2 stars to 4 stars Jack will have an extra spring in his step because Mcginn is back there both on the same wave length, think back to last season when Jack came back it was like different team they rallied and pushed on, I'm hopeing Mcginn has the same influence, these last 10 games are big because if we go down it's a full rebuild maybe 3-4 seasons to get back up, IF we stay up I think we will finish in top 10 next season on go on from there with the wealth of our owners we can really push on, It's much a fine line, DO OUR DIE come on boys.
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25 Apr 2023 20:01:07
How was that not a pen ?
22 Jan 2023 10:46:03
No game now till February, these lads few days in the window are big our bench looked weak yesterday,
Who would taught we would be sitting were we are in the league a few months back we get the right players in and these European spots are up for grabs, I think Fulham, Brentford and Brighton will drop off, sarr,gordon and toney are the ones I'd like to see come in and we still have the big man Carlos to come back he will be like a new signing
1.) 22 Jan 2023 12:06:15
I wouldn't touch Gordon mate, Everton fans would drive him to Villa park by all accounts. I'm still hopeful we'll get Guendouzi and a forward, Dembele potentially.
2.) 22 Jan 2023 12:31:16
Agree IV, next 10 days could set the tone for the direction we’re heading this season.
I would like a striker and winger/attacking mid.
Can’t really see us signing Gordon, the fee being mentioned is way above what I think he’s worth and what we can afford or are prepared to spend.
Toney has a bit of baggage now so not sure about him.
Sarr? I think that ship has sailed.
Dembele and Guendouzi are the names we’re constantly linked with. Better than what we’ve got?
I really like the look of Duran, could be a fantastic bit of business.
3.) 22 Jan 2023 14:06:41
Im definitely with BK regarding Gordon, the Everton fans aren't keen, he would be no better than Bailey.
4.) 22 Jan 2023 23:54:25
Gordon is a moron? as Jilted John once sang ? Probably not, just not a good signing for us right now.
14 Jan 2023 11:48:11
Not regular poster here, but a regular reader of posts, I think that was a great win last night, yes we didn't play great, but we ground out a win that I'm certain we would have lost that game a few months back, we are always quick to just on the players back when we lose, even when we win we are saying thus player wasn't good that player scored but wasn't but wasn't great,
I taught Bailey had one of his better games, Leeds defense could get near him they changed there left back for the last 20mins,
Young was my man of the match he did extremely well that young man he was making has a massive future ahead of him,but young done a good job on him, could have been a foul on the led up to the goal, but young blocks tackles he was brilliant hasn't lost a yard of pace,
Dougie and kamara look a great partnership,
Mings and Konsa looked very uncomfortable for the first 15 mins of the second half,Personally I think konsa knows his days of been first choice are soon coming to an end
Ramsey, didn't bring much, but he been out injured for bit
Emi and couthino Emi was quite first half but dropped deeper second when got on the ball he made good use of it, Couthino when he came on I taught he done alright
INGS and Watkins, Ings never really got a sniff from there center half's, Watkins you know what your going to get from him is a 100% effort every game
Lads we have to remember we don't have a squad with a young Ronaldo or a Messi, Halland, Sarah, we have half decant players not world class who some are playing under there third manger in less than 2 seasons we all can see the improvement give the players belive, Sing your hearts out when we win, walk in to work Monday with your held high, because there is going to be plenty of ups and downs
20 Oct 2022 22:28:27
Gérard won a league title in Scotland a poor league when Celtic were rebuilding there squad
With his ego he has put us in dog fight with teams that are more equipped to be at the bottom of the league
He took the arm band off mings the biggest leader we at the club, and tried making a fool put him on the opening day, like most of his discussions that failed
Given it to mcginn has weight him down and not performed at all this season, that decision has failed
Why did he go out and buy chambers and not play him because when he has played he has done everything right
Why can't nakamba get a look in now before injury he was best player on the pitch regularly
Why has he left us with 1 winger because out of 3 he shipped out he left us with the worst 1
Personally I think Deano got a raw deal with the perlsow and Gérard connection and surely he must of had a little smile to himself tonight and who could blame
1.) 20 Oct 2022 23:00:53
IV bang on mate.
28 Aug 2022 18:13:50
We called for Deano to be sacked, the truth is we have gone backwards,no style of play what so ever, and no identity, this was what he talked about when he first came in 9 months later its got to the stage again where we don't expect to win a game
At least with deano we showed up every game like after the lock down he knew we were leaking goals and they worked on that area during lockdown
Stevie used the excuse last season that he needed a pre season with these players (I'm afraid that's came and gone)
I was reading today that he doesn't even take the training sessions anymore he is in his office watching on cctv, don't know how true that is
I'm sure the owners are scratching there heads 100s of millions spent with massive plans for the club but we are going backwards with massive strides
1.) 28 Aug 2022 19:50:34
Said it when Deano was sacked "Be careful what you wish for" But no ridiculed and mocked by some on here for backing Deano.
Some was so pleased to get Gerrard for me he is not the right man we need change and we need it soon.The football today was dreadful if I was NWSE I'd say thanks but its not working and go all out to get Poch before we really are in the poo poo
2.) 28 Aug 2022 20:17:46
Poch ain’t going to come anywhere near us, and no sane well established name will either. Ask yourself why would you risk your hard won reputation on a club whose fan base is so fickle, and have unrealistic expectations of where we are currently as a club, I’d rather await for an opportunity that posed less risk.
3.) 28 Aug 2022 21:17:30
LOTI
Why wouldn’t Poch be tempted
1) we prob remind him of when he first went to Tottenham in terms of size of club and structure
2) His reputation is not that high at this present moment especially choking in the champions league with PSG and if it was high why did Man Utd not touch him?
3) Money talks…our owners would offer him a great contract and try to sell him the project especially with the ground redevelopment plans.
4) only problem might be Poch not willing to work with Purslow/ Lange
4.) 28 Aug 2022 21:55:03
How is a mid table top half finish an unrealistic expectation for a side that nearly did it before another £100mill was poured into the squad?
How are fans fickle to expect that the supposed new messiah can set up a team to look like they are capable of competing, let alone winning.
You act like people are calling for Champions League and while that might be the odd nutcase the majority of us expect that maybe we'd get at least a point from any of the games that weren't against the other overhyped English manager.
5.) 28 Aug 2022 21:56:36
Loti, it's not the fans fault that the team aren't playing well. When have we played well under Gerrard? We're not even hard to beat. West Ham were all over the place 1st half and we still couldn't manage any decent efforts on goal. Has Poch got a great reputation? Think Gerrard could win the French league in charge of PSG. Only on goal difference though!
6.) 28 Aug 2022 23:04:23
To some of the points above, Poch won’t be interested because he has his reputation to think about, and whilst his stock may not be as high as it once was it’s certainly higher than Aston Villa unfortunately. The other issue would be even if he did come if results wouldn’t be as expected after a couple of months our lot would be calling for his head who would want this type of grief? Secondly I don’t know anyone who said Gerrard was the messiah? If it was anyone It was the press I don’t think any Villa fan worth his salt thought Gerrard was anything other than a work in progress. Whose to say that over the course of the season we won’t finish mid table we are only 4 games in, a couple of quality signings before the window closes could change the whole picture. I know things at first team level aren’t great at the moment but you have to give any manager the time to succeed 9 months is no where near long enough to do that in my view.
7.) 28 Aug 2022 23:49:07
Ings, I can only speak for myself but the issue isn't results, it's performances - I can take losing if there is a clear vision of where we are going as a club, a philosophy on the pitch, a style of play, anything that suggests the manager has a plan and sadly I'm not seeing that on the pitch currently. For me, this squad of players is Top 10 quality so my expectation is that we are competing at that level come May, nothing more, nothing less but sadly we aren't delivering. Questions need to be asked all over the club, from Purslow to the playing staff and the issues need to be addressed soon or we'll sleepwalk towards another season of mediocrity. Is removing Gerrard the answer, possibly but there are other issues at the club beyond that. For me I'd only entertain the idea of removing Gerrard if A. we loss the new 4+ matches or B. there is a possibility that we can bring in an significant improvement like a Poch or a Potter (highly unlikely).
8.) 29 Aug 2022 08:18:13
There were enough people on here and elsewhere making out like Gerrard was next level because of his name.
Coutinho is technically the one player that has come solely for that reason with his drop in wages and that's working as well as Barkley.
We can't get at least a performance or hopefully a scrappy result against guaranteed relegation fodder Bournemouth or West Ham who are at least as disjointed as us right now. Nothing points to us reaching top half as there is absolutely no direction to players on the pitch. We could bring in 10 new players and it'll make little to no difference as they still need proper coaching.
I've seen mentions of him being stubborn with his formation but I'm seeing him not being stubborn enough. He needs to stick to 1 until the team settle (preferably none of the ones he currently uses). If necessary 4312 works better than his rubbish Christmas tree formation that has resulted in 0 wins.
The grudges need to be dropped immediately also. Stop talking about players in the press and if they're performing better than others then they need to play. When Buendia comes onto the pitch and outperforms your best mate don't completely change team and system to spite him when you give him a start.
9.) 29 Aug 2022 11:33:37
RK - Spot on about the coaching. This would all be different if SG could coach, but he can't, by his own admission. Now we have a League One coach taking the sessions and setting the direction. We should not be surprised with what we are seeing. For SG to turn this around he would have to sack the guy who gave up a successful role for him two months ago. Not going to happen. I'm afraid I can't 'trust the process'. Nothing will improve until Purslow and SG are gone. October, with us rooted at the foot of the table, is my prediction.
29 Jul 2020 22:46:33
To much to put on young shoulders, he should have been loaned to a championship team for the season let him get game time and goals.
27 Jul 2020 21:51:03
Clearly there is both in it then mate, villa park was sold to another company of the owners as have city and Newcastle and many more do the same villa at the end of last season announced a 60 million loss after the sale, this is many reasons 1 such reason was the length of time we spent in the championship and the parachute paymeant was getting less each year, we had the likes of Richards Hutton and many more on big wages all of this was last year's tax year, Forward on a year and a lot has changed I'd say Jack on the biggest wage which is peanuts compared to orthers in the league, More tv money, villa park sold out until lockdown, look everybody has there views and opinions and mine are that we don't need to sell to buy a better quality playa, yeah we won't be buying anywhere near the amount of players we did maybe 3-4 better type players.
27 Jul 2020 15:40:19
Eds why would villa have to pay money back for broadcasting I was 109% sure it worked the other way, and on another note I don't appreciate the name calling, the eds on this page are the only ones I here mentioning villa and ffp rules it's strange, when smith siad yesterday there is money to spend and it will take a huge offer for the club to sell Jack so that would suggest to me there not worried about Ffp only the eds.
{Ed002's Note - So Aston Villa are also run by idiots as well then if they are not worried about FFP. One wonders why the owners sold Villa Park to hide losses? There is no point you discussing anything to do with finances as you simply don't get it.}
27 Jul 2020 11:50:38
I don't understand the ffp rules I never stated that I do edd, u siad that money will have to come from somewhere hardly selling the likes of lansbury etc is going to generate a lot of money I'm not been smart here but isiant there a substantial amount of money for staying in the league tv money etc.
{Ed002's Note - Aston Villa have to pay money back for this season's broadcasting. You really need to put aside any thoughts of money.}
27 Jul 2020 09:31:32
So edd what you are saying is we need to sell likes of grealish mings Mcginn Heaton, to generate money to buy, I don't see this happening with the ffp been relaxed and the supposed 100m plus for staying up I think there will be plenty to spend has city not just got passed the ffp rules, oh and there is the fact of having billionaire owners there aswell.
{Ed002's Note - Obviously I did not say that and you are clearly an idiot. You also don't understand FFP nor the situation with Aston Villa. There is no £100M plus for staying up. FFP has been "relaxed" to allow clubs to ease their problems not spend for the sake of it. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Manchester City. And it certainly has nothing to do with how much money the owners have. Try not to embarrass yourself further.}
23 Jan 2023 22:52:01
I was reading a while back that we are spending a lot of time watching video etc, we seen to be a lot wiser with and without the ball, was reading that Gérard was all about the training ground and ran the lads into the ground, Emery detail and knowledge of the game is second to none, each player is burning with confidence but under Gérard it was completely drained
29 Dec 2022 23:31:55
This I agree with 100%, thinks changed for dean when he brought him in
26 Apr 2022 20:42:18
Bk I agree he will be on his way out but everytime he has played this season he has done a good job, this I can't understand while mcginn has been very poor and Ramsey is only playing in patches,
02 Apr 2022 21:40:11
Lord I understand that but it's like 3 steps forward and 2 steps backwards how is it that Deano was able to get this bunch playing maybe no playing well week in week out but most weeks we believed we had a chance, I think last season we took points of the top 6 clubs bar city
At some point the owners are going to stop spending I think I read yesterday they have spent 330 million on transfers that's a lot of money for any club to struggle to get into the top 10
I know some here feel it was the right thing to do in sacking Smith and some feel it was way to early I'm still undecided on that one myself, but what I do know is our defense is a shambles and that down to the loss of Terry, and I'm wondering did we miss a trick or was he even interviewed for the job
Konsa is half the player he was last season confidence is shoot, Mings over confident spit out the gum roll your sleeves up and wake, Cash the only one that can hold his head up puts in a shift and gives everything, mcginn looked today as if he needs a rest and he has for a while, but we know he is a better player further up the pitch so why won't we play him there couthino wasn't at the races at all should have came off at half time, Gérard needs to make the hard decisions and not be afraid to drop certain players no matter who they are
10 Feb 2022 13:40:14
Ollie is doing a lot more defending under stevie a bit like firimo is with Liverpool he is giving a lot more to the team than goals unfortunately its goals that win games, as for Ramsey I was one that couldn't see the hype but since Gérard came in its like the shackles have been taken of him, he was class last night