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10 Oct 2019 18:11:26
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10 Oct 2019 07:55:19
So one year ago to the day we appointed Dean Smith, 17th in the championship, 2 points out of the last 12 and going no where. One year on and we are 15th in the championship after 8 games, with a squad that look to be getting better every week and a management set up that have been finding a system that fits all our best players. Not been a bad 12 months of you ask me.

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10 Oct 2019 09:40:11
They all wanted him out before the norwich game lol fickle lot villa fans.

10 Oct 2019 12:45:53
We have done fantastic in the year under deeno.
The owners have been a breath of fresh air and they are pumping money into the club on a regular basis.
Very happy with everything really.
We have brought in 12 players and how many can you say are dud signing?
Very high percentage have turned out better than I thought.
And most have a better sell on value
Vastly different to previous owners and managers.

09 Oct 2019 21:33:31
Hi fellow Villains just chatting today at work as rumours came about again about John Mcginn so I want to ask you guys what's John Mcginns value? If we had to sell which I never want to do by the way Was I far off in telling people at work 70 million. Have a long think don't forget his age energy and goalscoring ratio.

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09 Oct 2019 22:01:49
It’s hard to get to a figure because he’s so unique, and how many out there can bring what he does to the team and are willing to come? I’d be happy with anything around 60, but I can’t see anyone going anymore than 50 at the minute.

09 Oct 2019 22:08:59
Walkies, you have to ask yourself if he played for Liverpool or Man Utd how much would they want for him, well the same applies to us.
Another season in the prem and with the same rate of improvement, I think he will be worth more than 70 million.
What we must do is keep his contract up to date.

10 Oct 2019 08:13:21
With today's transfer prices going as they are out of control.
I would start at 80million.
But I suppose the 50 mill is what most would offer.
He has a 5 year deal so we are in the driving seat.

10 Oct 2019 14:43:58
Bob, I love McGinn and hope he is at villa for the next five years, however the only person in the driving seat is John and his agent. We know he will have a buy out clause, unfortunately I can't see it being anywhere the figure that will lock him in to the Villa. I am sure he is an honourable guy and he seems to love Villa, however put yourself in his shoes, I would imagine he is on around £60000 a week with his new contract, if he sees out is contract this will earn him around £8 million after tax. So his agent gets offered a contract with a say Man U for £120000 a week with a five year contract, his earnings (again after tax ) would then be around £16 million over the length of the contract. John is a family man who will obviously look after his long term interests, I know for sure £8 million pounds would influence a lot of people's decision. Let's all hope not, however as I said it won't be an Aston Villa decision, it never is these days, money talks.

10 Oct 2019 17:14:19
Do not underestimate purslow in any transfer dealings he is no mug.
He will play hard ball with any suitors after any of our players.

10 Oct 2019 18:14:11
Hope you are right Bob.

11 Oct 2019 11:16:59
Scott You seem to make a lot of assumptions, how do we “know” he’s got a buy out clause? It’s not as common in England as it is abroad, under these owners/ board we haven’t seen any buy out clauses.

Also worth noting that money didn’t talk when spurs matched the 30m asking price for one of our players early on in the new owners tenure. When you’ve got their sort of money, I’d imagine an extra 20/ 30 million here or there doesn’t even bring in a second thought.

{Ed001's Note - buyout clauses are not legally binding in England.}

11 Oct 2019 14:12:55
Thanks Ed👍 Does that mean that they are totally redundant in England? I remember the story that came out about Suarez and Arsenal bidding £1 more than the buy out or something stupid.

{Ed001's Note - they are just useless pretty much. The Suarez one actually saw Count Dracula take Liverpool to court in order to try and force through a move. That is how we know for sure they are not legally binding as his attempt failed.}

11 Oct 2019 15:46:55
Weird one because from what’s put out in the press they are fairly common in Spain, just seems pointless though.

{Ed001's Note - they are obliged to put one in the contract in Spain and they are legally binding there. We have different laws here though.}

09 Oct 2019 09:58:49
I haven't seen the video, or heard the song, but god we've got some idiot supporters. With all that has been, made public lately, about racial rubbish online . The mind boggles, why Villa fans would want to come out, with something like this . To do it to any player, is wrong, but to your own players, is beyond belief.

People have said, that they were just young, No excuse, they should know better .
We as supporters are surely, better than this . For some of the press and pundits, this is just another excuse, to try and belittle us .
Onwards and Upwards Villaforever.

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09 Oct 2019 14:16:08
We are people of Great Britain who support Aston Villa.
We should all stick together and point these morons out to the people who can do something about it, Stewards, Police, etc.
They should then be named and shamed and banned from Villa Park for 2 years.
We are too soft on people nowadays, and there needs to be a consequence to peoples behaviour.
I love my family to bits every single one of them, and know 100% that they would never behave in this way, but If it was my son or relative I would reported them no question, Job done.

07 Oct 2019 15:48:59
The Taylor V Targett saga .
Taylor is a confidence player, we can all agree, at times last season he was bad . This season he certainly showed improvement& at times had a good game . You can see why some have said, he hasn't done anything wrong . Since Targett has come in, he has overall, looked a better player . Steer played well last season, but Heaton, is a more experienced and better goalie . As we have said, football is all about opinions, but the opinion that counts is Deans . The one thing most have said on here, is that we trust Deano .
Onwards&Upwards Villaforever.

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06 Oct 2019 18:36:33
Got back from Dublin last night I gave my Norwich ticket to my pal as the Irish lions club invited us over an wow wasnt disapointed half price drink and free food and the noise was amazing even tho we watched it on TV if anybody fancys a change give it ago its ace! Right onto the came what can I say it was coming we was class I will go on record now and say that we had the best summer ever I don't think we brought 1 bad player. We are exciting to watch we are always in games. Right even tho we won I read people going on about Neil Taylor yes his not great but his 2nd choice. He didn't even play an your still moaning at him lol. Enjoy the win international break now and we are out the bottom three. Mings needs to cut out the errors we really could of done with a cahill next to him. Next game keep the same team and let's keep it going it makes me wonder where we would of been if we hung on to some of these games we was wining an if we didn't have poor refs we might of even bein top 6. A lot of hard work to do but we are ticking slong nicely! UTV.

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06 Oct 2019 20:09:15
You say all of that and then go on to say we could have done with Cahill.
Why would you say that, nothing wrong with Engels at all.
And as far as Taylor is concerned Targett gives us far better options going forward in my opinion, he is 6 years younger so he should grow with the side.

06 Oct 2019 21:26:51
Villadave engels is great but I just think the mistakes the defence keeps making if you had somebody whos a old head then that wouldn't happen as much. As for taylor his 2nd choice so I don't know what people are moaning at him for yes his not great but his not 1st choice targett is so why people are moaning about a guy who didn't play? It was a great win 1 which was coming its our 1st season in the prem we are not going to have 24 world class players we got the 1st 11 right next season we can get the squad better sorry if every player including subs isn't world class but I think we have done amazing in the market. If you took salah out of liverpool there isn't a player whos gona come in with the same class it takes time. This team is class its young and it will grow together. I can only see us getting better an better players join aswel. VillaDave we are a very exciting young team but we are making few mistakes at the back so I was simply suggesting an using Cahill as a example the if we had a old head he would teach these young lads so we don't make these silly errors.

06 Oct 2019 22:11:14
Sorry walkies you sound like you have been drinking mate.
I am the guy who keeps backing this team, and supports everything Deano does.
You make it sound as if you are telling me to be patient, and that we are a young side that needs time?
Listen I am not a Taylor fan, so I feel the same about him whether he plays or not, so for that reason I would prefer a Villa side without him in it.

07 Oct 2019 09:20:43
Villadave we are not moaning we are happy he didn't play and proves how much better we are without him the only thing is can target stay fit I sure hope so.

07 Oct 2019 12:39:54
We all would but there's not a lot we can do his here an his trying to help. Next season we might sell him and buy better but for now his here only as a back up. Its tough because everybody knows target is a 1st choice lbk you won't get to many top players come and want to sit on the bench. I just want to touch on nakamba song an if anybody knows anybody who was singing it tell them to stop it is racist and not funny at all! UTV.

07 Oct 2019 12:48:42
Tom I know that mate, I am saying the very same thing.
This all started with Scotty saying that he did not rate Taylor, I backed him up, and now it seems we are the villans in all this, pardon the pun.
We are the ones being accused of moaning, just because we dislike a player who again I say does not compliment our team.

07 Oct 2019 13:28:07
Who would buy Taylor, He’s not even a pub team player, never mind good and win and a solid performance hopefully more of it after the international break!

06 Oct 2019 12:27:13
I have to agree with Scotty and his opinion on Taylor.
I also think we are a much better side going forward without him.
My reasoning is that the team have more confidence and trust without him.
I also think to say that has nothing to do with complaining about Villa, its a perfectly valid observation about one part of a machine that if its not working properly take it out and replace it.
If that`s not common sense I don`t know what is.

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06 Oct 2019 14:52:46
Dave be careful, you are opening your self up to RK and Chris's wrath. I agree there is absolutely nothing negative in stating the obvious and it's not surprising to many that our best performances of late were the first half last week and yesterdays 90 minutes. Check out the team during this period. I just hope Deano gets backup in January as Targett may be fragile.

06 Oct 2019 15:53:10
Because bar the second goal to Burnley Taylor hasn't actually done anything wrong and I don't have an agenda against any player.
I've previously said that each one is better depending on the circumstances. I think Targett would get found out against City and Liverpool so Taylor should play those games for his experience in managing games but for the games we should look to dominate we should use Targett.

06 Oct 2019 16:55:38
I will say it one last time Taylor is the weakest left back in the premier league by a mile, he is to short, can't win headers, too slow, can't cross, can't shoot, can't attack, no matter who who play he should not be anywhere near the first team again.

06 Oct 2019 20:10:35
In a nutshell, Scotty.

07 Oct 2019 09:53:31
Everyone agrees on Taylor, if that’s not clear to see the I don’t know how else everyone can spell it out. No one is in disagreement on him or his ability.

But comments like “if Deano hadnt been so blinkered we would be a few points better off” after a 5-1 win, is what winds people up, and further proves that with this fan base you can never truly win. Add to that the fact Targett was injured for quite a few games, Hause missed a game through injury and Dean Smith (you know the manager who got us promoted) is around them every day, with a team full of experienced coaches helping him make decisions, comments like that just flaunts ignorance and arrogance.

07 Oct 2019 22:05:31
Rk I’m sure taylor was out jumped for Burnley’s first goal?

05 Oct 2019 17:18:49
Now surely nobody can, complain about that one .
Big Wes could of had 4 and he worked hard getting back Defensively. Marvellous was Marvellous and overall a great team performance. Nice to see the goals, being shared about . Another brilliant goal, by Douglas, what a strike .
Nice to see Prince William and family, cheering us on . Prince George was really getting excited, looks like we could have another royal supporter .
Onwards&Upwards Villaforever.

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05 Oct 2019 18:26:05
We are a completely different team without the incompetent Taylor, if Deano hadnt been so blinkered we would be a few points better off, I just hope he doesn't start another game and it would really suit me if he isn't even on the bench, just look what happened last week.

05 Oct 2019 18:41:12
You're really going to put that performance down to one player Scott? The result was coming and today was the day the opposition didn't find another gear and we kept the pressure on. Praise the men who did the job rather than throwing unnecessary negatives around.

05 Oct 2019 18:57:12
Not negative rk, just telling it how it is. If players aren't good enough and affect all round performance they shouldn't be in the side, the fist half last week and today show what kind of team we are without a weak link at left back.

05 Oct 2019 19:04:52
Brilliant movement today with the stamp of Dean Smith all over it! Great to see him sticking to his principles despite some doubters! People may say it's only. Norwich with injuries but we saw thigh coming in all of our previous games in glimpses! It was all together now and great subs to contribute too! Lovin it! U Onwards and Upwards UTV.

05 Oct 2019 19:20:45
Targett had a decent game like everyone else but I saw no major difference in the play to suggest the result came about because of his presence bar the tackle that led to Hourihane's goal.
I missed the first 30 minutes while driving home from a gig last night so must have missed out on his single-handed influence you suggest.

05 Oct 2019 19:46:55
Your not telling it how it is, your being negative after a 5-1 win, says a lot.

05 Oct 2019 20:08:38
I am totally negative where Taylor is concerned, however he wasn't involved today so nothing negative in my view today. I am totally positive when he is not involved, which is th first half last week and today's performance. Highlighting weekness is no way negative it is factual, I support the Villa through and through and always will and am just grateful Deano had finally seen the light.

05 Oct 2019 20:09:13
Chris, I should of known better, than to say nobody can complain at that one HaHa . We can only live in hope .
Onwards&Upwards Villaforever.

05 Oct 2019 21:29:57
Stating the point that the players were only excellent because of the omission of one player is not a fact, it's opinion. A rather disrespectful opinion to the players who put in that excellent performance might I add. The passing and positioning of the midfield and forwards made that game from what I saw. There wasn't much in the way of defending from either side (not much need for us) . Some decent last ditch blocks and interceptions which we can hopefully avoid needing to make further down the line.

05 Oct 2019 21:52:11
100% is because Taylor didn’t play, teams target him and it gets to us. The players loose confidence when Taylor is on the pitch I’d much rather see a traffic cone instead of taylor hopefully target can stay fit UTV.

06 Oct 2019 01:40:10
I rest my case your honour, Tom this is the most sensible and accurate response I have read on this site. It is 100% correct.

06 Oct 2019 08:02:57
The other players have not remotely changed the way they play, the only difference yesterday was the passes finding their target and players not running head first into defenders.
The players are professionals so get on with their job otherwise they'd be unprofessional.
If you're talking about targeting weakness I think you'll find teams tend to target the wing with El Ghazi on because he's not great at tracking runners. But again, bias means that if Taylor can't stop a 10v1 situation it means he's rubbish.

06 Oct 2019 08:48:53
Fantastic performance and result.
All played really well.
Marvellous was my mom he was brilliant.
Covered every inch of grass and we have a potential superstar on our hands.
Playing like this will keep us up for certain in my book.
Movement pace and getting more bodies in the penalty area is what I wanted and we got it in abundance yesterday.
Plus our regal supporter was there with his family to witness it all.
🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁.

06 Oct 2019 09:46:54
We win 5-1 and yet some are still determined to put a negative spin on things and show their arrogance and ignorance.

06 Oct 2019 11:15:54
Great result yesterday .

The entire team was class from back to front .

I’m not sure how any of you can moan about a player that wasn’t in the team .

If Taylor was playing, irrespective of my views on the lad I would support the choices made by Deano In order to get the result .

Taylor is not a great player no, but every time he puts the claret and blue on I will support him!

04 Oct 2019 19:41:36
I would start Davis tomz against Norwich he will give you 100 per cent if nothing else. And neil taylor has to sit on the bench for me. Instead of going the game we are going to meet the Irish lions in temple street few drinks food and they have it on live! Flight at 8am come on me babbies.

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05 Oct 2019 09:15:54
Heaton



Gulibert Engles Mings Targett


Nakamba

Mcginn Conor


Trezeguet Grealish

Wesley.

04 Oct 2019 10:24:18
And the Doug Ellis and Holte upper.

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