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03 Jul 2020 13:40:54
Alright lads united fan here.

You must of seen reports that Grealish to MU is a done deal (I highly doubt that is the case)

Just thought I’d ask your opinion on him. I like him but I don’t see him half as much as you lot.

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03 Jul 2020 15:16:23
He’s a quality midfielder who should not only be in the England squad but the team itself his ability to glide past people and manipulate the ball is second to none I may be biased but he is right up there amongst the best midfielders in the country and I believe he will thrive with better players around him. My query as far as Utd are concerned is where do you play him now you have Fernandes and Pogba operating in central midfield whilst Jack can play wide left I don’t believe he is nearly as effective there as he is in the middle and I don’t believe he will want to operate as a squad player Nor will Utd particularly given the asking price will be £70 to 80 million.

03 Jul 2020 15:17:27
Hi Dave, this is my honest opinion, many will disagree with me.
He is very good when he is at the races, that unfortunately is not always the case with our Jack.
For me he spends too much time on the ball, rather than doing something with it, and is always looking for that extra pass.
I would like to see more attempts at goal from him, he fails to see a strike opportunity, because he is looking at his feet all the time.

We do love him down here, after all he is a Villa lad, through and through, and most think he is a great player, like I say he is very good when on his game.

Having said all that, I would sell him in the blink of an eye.

03 Jul 2020 17:28:28
Dave I do get what you mean particularly the bit about always looking at his feet but I think he often tries to do too much because he has little faith in what is in and around him which is why I think he will develop more quickly in a side with better players in it sadly that won’t be with us but if we get £70 to £80 million I am with you I would definitely sell.

03 Jul 2020 18:21:20
John, I don`t disagree mate, I am sure he will improve in a better side, but who knows it could work the other way, he might even look very ordinary with better players around him.

That`s how I see Grealish, I always have done, yes he is a good player, and yes he can glide past players, but for me he lacks several qualities that would make him a great player.

03 Jul 2020 19:28:24
best player we have had since Cowans would walk in any top 6 side, with better players will get better, no midfielder like him, glides past players.

03 Jul 2020 19:50:55
villajk, you are making statements that are unfounded mate, how do you know he would walk into any top 6 side, and that there is no other midfielder like him.
I have been answering a question, for another fan, and I have told him what I honestly think of Grealish.

03 Jul 2020 20:23:00
Villajohn while I think Jack is a quality player I don’t think he would be an automatic starter at Man City, Liverpool, or for that matter Chelsea as each of those sides have quality creative players in the “Jack” role. I would also question whether he is our best player since Sid I think Mc Garth fits that bill in fact I could even argue the best player in my lifetime.

03 Jul 2020 20:44:26
Dave, without sounding too patronising I respect much of what you say, fair honest reasonable, however where Jack is concerned I think you have a problem, my guess is you expect far more of him than is fair based on what he had around him. To the man u fan, yes he is an unknown quantity at the top level, however look at what he can do in a very poor side. Last season we would not have been promoted without him, he is an exceptional talent who holds the ball up better than most in the premier league. If he joins you at man u I don't think you will be disappointed.

03 Jul 2020 21:56:02
Scotty, you are correct mate, yes I do have a problem with Jack.
I don`t expect any more from him, he does a lot for the team.
But there are a couple of things I expect different from Jack, one is that he releases the ball sooner, he holds it too long at times and any gaps have closed, its that extra pass he is looking for.
And the other, is that he should have more attempts at goal, when gaps appear, and they do appear, no question.
I don`t think that is expecting far too much of him, both of those qualities would surely improve him as a player.

03 Jul 2020 21:59:56
I think Jack trying to put himself in that bracket of players leads him to trying too hard to find the 'perfect' option even when it's not on. His shooting also suffers from similar issues when he tries so hard to find the corner that there's no pace on the shot.
Obviously it helps when teammates actually make those runs but sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate. Eventually teammates will know where you want to play it.
Jack's biggest strength is playing in tight gaps, winning set pieces and dragging the team forward.

04 Jul 2020 08:39:31
You're joking, lads. Man Utd-fan, I advise you lot to stay far away from Grealish, as he would only serve to be a flop for your club, it's a real honest opinion. Most Aston Villa-fans here are. I would say the most deluded ones, and I feel they do are like that with intent.

Why would Manchester United sign Grealish in the first place anyways? He isn't like Ronaldo or Messi.
Man Utd are playing a psychological game here. It's all a hoax, of course.

04 Jul 2020 08:57:51
No "big" club would want to sign Grealish, get real.

04 Jul 2020 08:31:43
He is an exceptionally gifted player and I’m sure he will only get better, for example Dave has highlighted some of things he could improve on . With better coaching and equally gifted players around him, I have no doubt he will become the finished article.
He’s already knocking on the door of the England team and will I’m sure be a regular in the National side before very long.
80 million is a lot of money but it wouldn’t surprise me if his suitors, whoever they may be, end up having a player worth we’ll in excess of that within a few years time.

04 Jul 2020 15:05:31
His natural talent is incredible, his thinking of the game imo is poor, I’ve made this point many times he’s the spoilt kid in the playground and everything has to go through him. No self control off the field. Comes back to grab the ball off defenders to much so can try and take the whole team on. Doesn’t shoot enough. Head drops easy.

04 Jul 2020 16:12:07
Hnchmch185, calling people on here deluded, is a bit off the mark mate, and shows signs of being fatuous, I will explain.
Deluded means believing something that is not true, correct.
its like believing in Pegasus, when we all know it not true, get my drift.
You are making a statement that a big club would not want Grealish, and to be honest you ain`t got a clue, have you.
Our thoughts on Grealish are peoples opinions mate, not facts.

04 Jul 2020 16:44:00
Everyone will have an opinion on jack, mine is that he won’t perform at his best until surrounded by players on his level. At the minute he has C level players around him at best, you put Bruno Fernandes, Martial, Pogba, players from that ilk around him and he will flourish. Not many players in world football can perform at their very best ability without having similar around them. No one is saying he’s on the level of messi and Ronaldo. But look at someone like Modric at spurs then modric at Madrid, completely different players, he showed glimpses at spurs but performed at that level consistently when he was put in a team that emulated his ability.

That’s the questions for Villa, either put players of his ability around him, or sell and try to get 5 or six players not as good as Grealish but a step above what we have at the minute. Unfortunately I think it will be the latter, no one should want to see us selling our best players imo, it’s been our downfall for years.

04 Jul 2020 19:00:03
I have not undergone a sex change chris, honest.
I am agreeing with you again, what's going on mate.
The selling bit I have to go the other way mate, I would sell, simply because we are not going to get the quality around him at Villa Park just yet.

04 Jul 2020 23:42:16
Unfortunately I think your right re getting players of his quality in, we’ll be lucky to stay up let alone sign decent players in the summer👎.

05 Jul 2020 13:42:51
Villadave,

I apologise I haven’t given a response to the above comments as my heads been a mess as I’ve just been given the date of my 7 yr olds heart operation which is happening this month, not something I’d share but as you felt the need to create a post on the MU page I thought I needed to explain!

Thanks to all who took time to reply to the above post. It seems jack Grealish is well thought of but also seems some wouldn’t miss him either.

What I’ve seen of him which is little compared to you lads, I like him I think he would thrive at MU he has that arrogance, I also noticed you say he’s not at his best when out wide left but I think left of a central 3 he would be great. With no disrespect to Villa (as I like your team) he’d feel less pressure at MU.

Really appreciate your responses good luck against Liverpool 👍🏻.

02 Jul 2020 21:31:05
He should try El Ghazi upfront no else seems to know where the back of the net is and watch out for the backlash on Sunday we need to defend deep and counter attack with pace upfront.

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02 Jul 2020 15:53:20
I saw a real battling performance from West ham last night, I now think they will escape, Bournemouth look to be struggling like us, so it's two out of the three, us Watford, Bournemouth. Like many on here have said, I just hope we can go down fighting, unfortunately I haven't seen much over the last four games to inspire me. Come on Villa prove me wrong and fight till the end, so Jack, John and Tyrone, you may well be moving on to bigger things, however leave us with the memories that you gave it your best till the end and let us remember you as fighters not mercenaries.

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02 Jul 2020 17:13:56
If they was so good we wouldn't be down there.

02 Jul 2020 20:11:18
I referred to one game and which team are you referring to, us or them, your post doesn't make sense.

02 Jul 2020 22:27:04
You said mings jack an mcginn were moving to bigger things if they was that good we wouldn't be down there. Mings can't head a ball jack falls over any chance he gets and mcginn goes missing after 20 min.

02 Jul 2020 23:41:11
I think Jack is 100% gone regardless of Division but where do we see Mings and McGinn going?

And who would you like to see come in if (when) relegated?

02 Jul 2020 12:11:09
Question for all of you was the quality of football better now or the 90s i don't mean villa i mean football as a whole!

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01 Jul 2020 19:49:44
If chelsea win 5.0 villa are out bottom 3.

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01 Jul 2020 20:06:10
Come on Tammy!

01 Jul 2020 22:22:03
5-0 a bit hopeful eh walkies😁.

01 Jul 2020 22:26:04
Oh well thought was there we will just have to beat liverpool! UTV.

01 Jul 2020 19:37:40
I'm going to put my neck on the line and say that we are staying up this season. Norwich, Bournemouth and West Ham are all worse than us.

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01 Jul 2020 19:46:47
Looks as if we will jump up a position today as Newcastle are thrashing Bournemouth.

01 Jul 2020 19:56:57
Lads, 6 more points will be enough - The teams around us are very poor, Bournemouth have a horrible run in from now, that was a must win for them! Come on Chelsea!

01 Jul 2020 20:10:01
I admire your optimism RHLT however Weest Ham have Norwich to play and that's why I think our season will hinge on a last day shoot out against the hammers and if I am honest I can’t see us winning at the London Stadium.

29 Jun 2020 22:52:07
I would be interested in what people think we should do with the 80million we would get for Jack if he goes.

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30 Jun 2020 07:47:43
I guess the answer to this depends on whether we are in the prem or the Championship. If in the prem I would look to sign a combination from Mitrovic, Tuanzebe, Benrahma, Harry Wilson, Batshuayi, Watkins. I would even try to get Albrighton back the best crosser of a ball in the prem in my opinion. If we are in the Championship then I would look to the likes of Lolley, Worrall, Grant, Dack, Eze.

30 Jun 2020 22:10:29
Depends on which league we are in I guess, if in the Premiership and can retain the rest of the squad I'd go for a RB, CB, MF, LW, RW, ST.

JonJoe Kenny
Axel Tuanzebe
Emiliano Buendía
Dwight McNeil
Daniel James (Loan)
Alfredo Morelos


Heaton

Kenny, Tuanzebe, Mings, Targett

McGinn, Luiz

James, Buendía, McNeill

Morelos.

30 Jun 2020 22:29:42
Not all of the above for 80M BTW :-)

01 Jul 2020 00:21:13
There is no chance of McNeil or Daniel James coming to us.

01 Jul 2020 11:39:08
Cool - Anything to add to the conversation beyond that?

01 Jul 2020 14:54:28
I don't get why you say they wouldn't come we are Aston Villa. Terry come didn't he we are massive.

01 Jul 2020 14:53:35
Yes, we will not get £80m for Grealish.

01 Jul 2020 15:16:20
McNeil will sign for either Spurs or Arsenal and Daniel James will not be swapping Man Utd where he is playing week in week out to drop down to the Championship.

01 Jul 2020 15:32:02
Team was based on us staying in the Premiership RH. Also, James has been replaced by Greenwood in the United 11 and they are looking at Sancho, he will be available for a loan if that happens. Don't agree that we could not tempt the players on that list but do agree that we will be in the Championship if something doesn't change. Then it's an entirely different set of players sadly!

01 Jul 2020 15:35:59
Its all well and good saying we should go for this player and that player etc but other than Grealish and McGinn, we're going to struggle to offload the likes of Mings, Heaton, Luiz as we are paying them good money which another club won't due to their performances this season.

01 Jul 2020 15:45:50
I agree that we might have difficult offloading the likes of El ghazi, Engels, Taylor and some of the other fringe players but we will have no trouble when it comes to Mings unfortunately.

01 Jul 2020 16:21:54
Mings has been awful since winning his England cap. Seems that he's given up trying to prove himself.

01 Jul 2020 17:12:54
I actually think the fact clubs won't have as much money to spend coupled with a narrow window to sign players could mean we keep a lot of the squad together! Mings will have plenty of suiters, as will McGinn, but will these clubs pay our valuation - Surely we would demand 25-30M each regardless of division?

01 Jul 2020 19:00:52
That's the point. We can demand all we want but if the buying club ain't got the money, the players will stay with us. Agreed that if the squad stay together we'll be strong enough to compete in the Championship (if we go down) but it will ensure our finances suffer.

02 Jul 2020 11:35:03
Whilst in principle I agree that clubs may not pay our asking price are we likely to have to reduce our asking price to comply with FFP which to be honest I am not fully au faithful with so perhaps somebody can clarify for me.

{Ed002's Note - Aston Villa has another year to sort out their finances now - they should take that opportunity. The issue of the sale of Villa Park may yet cause further problems.}

29 Jun 2020 21:52:57
A lot of talk of who they want as manager what players we should have his what i would like. I want a manager who has a Philosophy a manager who picks a settled squad and sticks to what he belives in. 1 thing Aston Villa need is pace its a really slow team we always used to have pace. This side isn't crap it just needs guidence targetts a great lbk guilbert is good when fit. Aston Villa issue is midfield we need a erikson like player somebody willing to take risks. I did like sherwood but i also like david wagner or the norwich manager david farke. As for youth our youth isn't good enough at the min. Until his gone dean smith will have my backing all in all i belive his done a ok job!

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29 Jun 2020 22:04:02
If we do some how stay up give Chelsea what they want and let's get tammy back in a villa shirt. Also if Jack does go i would say get someone like Danny ings we need proven prem players what will not break the bank.

{Ed002's Note - There is zero chance of either of these things happening.}

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29 Jun 2020 22:43:36
Who would you go for?

01 Jul 2020 11:17:38
Cantwell, Ward prows, Tuanzebe.

29 Jun 2020 21:53:12
If we do go down who do people think we should try and buy. I think one of the players we should try and buy is Gayle from Newcastle I've always rated him and think he could do a good job for us.

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